tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10997257.post1346811195314887355..comments2024-03-01T22:45:35.314-06:00Comments on Bag Blog: Whose Morality Do We ChooseBag Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01885412195900280096noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10997257.post-61198711554091460732008-10-28T11:39:00.000-05:002008-10-28T11:39:00.000-05:00Buck, I'm not sure I follow your feelings and the ...<I>Buck, I'm not sure I follow your feelings and the Japanese connection. </I><BR/><BR/>My point in bringing up Japan is/was there are no moral absolutes, only cultural norms. And the fact that my personal values were in direct conflict with the cultural values of the Japanese on the one (narrow) issue of abortion. It's a strange feeling to be in a VERY small minority, especially when it comes to an issue you perceive to be black and white, with absolutely NO shades of gray.Buckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05319116022465066060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10997257.post-25276092394248186222008-10-28T08:54:00.000-05:002008-10-28T08:54:00.000-05:00Buck, I'm not sure I follow your feelings and the ...Buck, I'm not sure I follow your feelings and the Japanese connection. I do understand that the Japanese did not have a great history of human rights. They made Hilter look like a lamb. Barbaric comes to mind. Of course those thoughts come from someone raised in a Christian based country. I loved the link. Maybe someday people will look back on this era of abortion and think "how barbaric; I'm glad we came to our senses."<BR/><BR/>guyk, you always have some interesting thoughts and sometimes they crack me up.<BR/><BR/>Becky, Thanks, I'm ready for that mouth guard now.<BR/><BR/>Mezzo, thanks for the support.Bag Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01885412195900280096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10997257.post-13254772060275737382008-10-27T19:12:00.000-05:002008-10-27T19:12:00.000-05:00Fantastic post, Lou. Don't put that mouth guard i...Fantastic post, Lou. Don't put that mouth guard in just yet! You're on a roll.Becky Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10901212090175780900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10997257.post-60759449335414931992008-10-27T13:08:00.000-05:002008-10-27T13:08:00.000-05:00maybe that there is just one moral absolute..theft...maybe that there is just one moral absolute..theft is wrong.<BR/><BR/>All others can be connected in some way..murder? theft of life.<BR/><BR/>Many if not most of our so called moral laws actually come about because of economics..marriage? A religious concept but used by governments to decide property law.<BR/><BR/>Age of consent? Arbitrary and for the most part go against the laws of nature but established mostly for the same reason that child labor laws were enacted..to protect wages of adults...in fact so much of the 'age' laws are not logical...you told me at 18 I could be sent to a combat zone and dodge bullets but when I came back you told me I was not old enough to enjoy a cold beer..go figure..but I am old enough to vote at 18? somewhere I am missing the logic.<BR/><BR/>Abortion? Not my call...but I defy anyone to show me in the constitution of the USA that abortion is and should be legal. Moreover..it takes a vivid stretch of the imagination to hold that the privacy rights in the constitution extend to justify abortion on call.<BR/><BR/>Drugs? A morality call..and I have problems with those who pass laws to protect me from myself.<BR/><BR/>Incest is an ancient taboo that has been prevalent among most societies because even the ancients recognized that interbreeding caused problems. But then there were some cultures that <BR/>not only condoned but required brother/sister marriages from their royalty..such as the Egyptians. Of course that might and probably does explain why so many mummies of Pharaohs had holes drilled in their heads..had to let those demons out...<BR/><BR/>I am rambling here..my apologies. I seem to be doing it todayGUYKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02365709988592687239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10997257.post-21563150176889814342008-10-27T12:05:00.000-05:002008-10-27T12:05:00.000-05:00Hitting the nail on the head: Conservative or Libe...Hitting the nail on the head: <EM>Conservative or Liberal - for a pregnant woman who wants her baby, life begins the minute she finds out she is going to have a baby. For a pregnant woman who does not want a baby, what is growing inside her is just cells.</EM>MezzoCOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07146281913189648485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10997257.post-83216282653779602872008-10-27T11:24:00.000-05:002008-10-27T11:24:00.000-05:00Jenn, we are on the same page.Jenn, we are on the same page.Bag Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01885412195900280096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10997257.post-37708616294732172472008-10-27T11:23:00.000-05:002008-10-27T11:23:00.000-05:00All very good points in this post, Lou, not many o...All very good points in this post, Lou, not many of which are debatable from a traditional Christian (moral) POV. But... that said, these things may indeed be debatable if you were raised under another value system, or spent a great deal of time in another country where the laws and/or values differ considerably from our own. <BR/><BR/>An example I believe I gave quite some time ago when this subject came up is Japan. Abortion was the primary means of birth control when I lived there in the late '60s and again in the mid-70s, and birth control pills were <I>illegal.</I> THAT offended my sensibilities and I never did understand the rationale for the "way things were." But... as I said: different culture, different values. I have GREAT difficulty getting my mind wrapped around this subject effectively, and especially when it comes to appreciating/understanding the other side's (in this case: the American Left's) POV. I understand the way I feel, but I'm VERY reluctant to say others should feel the same way... no matter what the issue may be.<BR/><BR/>BTW... have you <A HREF="http://www.cny.org/archive/eg/eg102308.htm" REL="nofollow">seen this?</A>Buckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05319116022465066060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10997257.post-58846613664787654532008-10-27T09:16:00.000-05:002008-10-27T09:16:00.000-05:00Back on line again today and the first blog I read...Back on line again today and the first blog I read was yours Lou, Totally and amazingly well said!<BR/>I'm in awe of your words here. You go girl, I'm with ya!!mornin'ladyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15597550704557773106noreply@blogger.com