Friday, March 21, 2008
A Big Deal
This morning when I read the headlines that Gov Richardson of NM had endorsed Obama, I was a bit wowed. It seems to me that the Clintons have done much for Richardson’s career. In fact, without the Clintons, Richardson would not be a household name and possibly not the governor of NM. According to the article, both Obama and Hillary have been courting Richardson hoping to get his endorsement. IMHO it seems that this was a big decision. To not go with Hillary was to turn your back on the one who brought you to the dance. It could mean political suicide if Obama loses and Hillary wins. So what does it really mean? At a time when Obama is struggling with the race issue and Hillary gaining a bit, does it mean that Richardson thinks that Obama will win the nomination, and he is jumping on the winning team. What kind of promises did Obama have to make to win over Richardson? Maybe Obama thinks he will pull in the Hispanic vote by getting this endorsement. I doubt if an endorsement will do that, but if Richardson were running as the VP…now that would get the Hispanic vote. I find it very interesting, and a bit greasy, slimy.
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I wonder what your opinion on this might be when I heard the news this morning. I agree.... slimy, whichever way you look at it.
Hmmm, I'm heading over to Buck's to see what he has to say about it. I don't think he likes Richardson very much.
I look at our options for president and think " Is this the best our country can come up with". How can so many be so decieved?
...does it mean that Richardson thinks that Obama will win the nomination, and he is jumping on the winning team.
Wow... Becky's gonna be disappointed. I read the Richardson news here first! Seeing as how I'm upside down again (sleep-wise) I only just posted about a half-hour ago and haven't even begun to look at the news.
I think Richardson IS doing the bandwagon thing, and he's just as likely to be wrong, as right. Which wouldn't be the first time... this week. And yeah: slimy.
Greasy, slimy? Why, because he's capable of recognizing a candidate with vision, instead of backing a republicrat? You don't make any sense. Obama doesn't have a race issue, but you seem to.
In response to "anonymous", Obama, through his own actions of attending, believing and accepting black separtism in a church for 20 years, IS the race candidate, not the unifying candidate as he once professed. His liberal socialist agenda is what appealed to Richardson, plus a potential spot on his cabinet with his buddy Sharpton.
Both Reverends Sharpton AND Wright are a far sight better than the Reverend Hagee: anti-Catholic, Jew, gay, black and woman.
BTW- liberal socialism sounds like America to me.
You must be dreaming of your liberal socialistic home away from home...France. And if hate mongering, anti-American, black separatism is what you believe in, you've picked the cream of the crop. Enjoy their racism while you can...America will soon tire of their hatred. Passports anyone? Nuff said...
No, I'm dreaming of America as the founding fathers envisioned it (although curiously, both Jefferson and Franklin visited France for pointers). I love the way you guys always harp on about freedom, but have no tolerance for an opinion that differs from your own banal, White wing (sorry, RIGHT wing) jingoism.
But you go right ahead, Bucko. Don't bother me none.
I would address "anonymous" but it is kind of confusing when everyone is "anonymous."
I don't believe I said anything about race other than the Presidential race, and I would never have expected him to endorse a Republican. Richardson has always been a Clinton man. To endorse Obama after all that the Clintons have done for him seems very strange. "Politics as usual" is "you scratch my back and I scratch yours." Richardson has turned from his good friends. I really doubt it is because he thinks Obama is some sort of visionary. In NM politics, greasing the palm is the way of things - and that is what is going on here.
Read the Constitution "Anonymous". Our founding fathers did not envision this country as a socialistic nation, where the government dictates every aspect of your life. It was founded as a "Republic" with individual rights and freedoms. Need I remind you of all the men and women who died for those rights in wars the past 240 years so that you CAN have your own opinion.
You said "Obama is struggling with the race issue". If you meant the presidential race, then I apologize. If not, it seems to me that he's overcome that issue with poise, determination and grace. My point is that Bill Richardson is entitled to endorse whomever he chooses regardless of his reasons. It doesn't influence my vote.
Judging by your blog, you seem to be a nice, thoughtful person, but you sure do attract some boneheaded followers (anonymous2 should read HIS copy of Webster's: Socialism equals community, not government.
"At a time when Obama is struggling with the race issue and Hillary gaining a bit, does it mean that Richardson thinks that Obama will win the nomination, and he is jumping on the winning team."
That is my exact quote - meaning that Obama is struggling in the polls right now because of his association with Rev. Wright. That is a fact that I read in the headlines this morning. I believe it was Fox News or CNN that mentioned that Hillary gained in the opinion polls this last week over Obama due to the race issue and Rev Wright. Which is all part of his struggle in the presidential race. Why would repeating what the Mass Media says make me racist?
Of course Bill has the right to endorse whom he wants, but if you are not questioning his motives you are naive. At the very least, he has turned on a good friend, but probably he has been promised something big.
Posting anonymously is such a cowardly thing to do. If you are going to say something you are ashamed to sign your name to, perhaps it is something that shouldn't be said in the first place.
I'm with Becky... if you're not willing to sign your name to it, then don't say it. Besides that, it makes for damned difficult conversation (I should have used scare quotes there) when you have to divine between Anons.
That said, it appears to me Anon #1 is well-versed in the Obama talking points, in addition to being able to selectively quote our hostess to their advantage. All pretty much old hat, as far as I'm concerned. Lame, too. As are the gratuitous insults to Lou's readers.
Check my last... the insults are simply tacky.
Anon #2, you appear to be on the right track. I wish you had used a name... any name... though.
My bottom line: Lou is right. Richardson, ever the opportunistic (which is slimy, in my book) pol he is, stuck his finger in the wind, struck a deal for a juicy job in the coming Obama administration (Sec/State? Nah... Ambassador to La France, more likely), jumped on the bandwagon, and endorsed.
Not too hard to grasp, really.
I love my faithful readers/dear friends!
Black man/Hispanic man ticket?
No wonder you okies are scared!
Anonymous, Anonymous, Anonymous, if only you would stop parroting back everything that has been spoonfed to you and learn to think for yourself, you will see why Obama as president is so frightening.
I'm reminded of a speech in which someone said, "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."
If you could only look past the color of Obama's skin and truly examine his character--or lack thereof--, you would be frightened as well.
And posting anonymously is still a cowardly thing to do.
Becky, Becky, Becky, you poor little misguided fundamentalist. You don't list a single reason why you think Obama's frightening. Lack of character? Do tell. Methinks you're maybe a bit like his Granny.
I'll list my name when I'm sure you won't burn crosses on my lawn.
Anon, why do you think my readers are Okies? Sounds like you are stereotyping people. Maybe you just have preconceived ideas of how Okies are or who my readers are. Sounds like prejudice to me ‘cause you don’t know Becky or Buck at all. As for the Obama/Richardson ticket, it would bother me whomever Obama chose, but not because of race, but because of views, ideas, lack of insight, and lack of experience. And I did not like Richardson even back when he was the NM rep and I was a Democrat living in NM. I’ve met the man and was not impressed. No, I don’t care about race, but someone who cannot read and is intolerant of other’s ideas, as you seem to be, really bothers me. If you really believe we all have the right to think for ourselves, you should respect my rights and my views, decease the name calling, and you should move on.
Anon sez: Becky, Becky, Becky, you poor little misguided fundamentalist. You don't list a single reason why you think Obama's frightening. Lack of character? Do tell. Methinks you're maybe a bit like his Granny.
I'll list my name when I'm sure you won't burn crosses on my lawn.
Lou pretty well beat me to it... as her response was spot-on, Anon.
But I'm compelled to add you "debate" like most liberals... very quick with the disparaging remarks and paranoid assumptions. I suppose this comes as part of your territory, eh? Said territory being all conservatives are racist bigots, fundamentalists, or just plain eeevil. Or all three, most often. As Lou said...you don't know Becky. All I know of her is what I've gleaned from two and a half years of reading her blog, and I can assure you there's no evidence supporting your unfounded accusations. But don't let that stop you... as if it would.
Just curious: you've visited MY blog at least three times during the last 48 hours, including twice this morning, yet you've not left a single comment there. My politics are similar to those of Lou and Becky...who rarely post anything political, to begin with. I, on the other hand, have been outspoken in my opposition to Your Beloved Obamanon... yet you chose to hold your tongue at my place. I find that interesting. You've pretty well confirmed my perception of the kind of folks inhabiting Taos, too. Thanks for that.
The anonymous comments made me laugh.I also find it funny that they were to cowardly to leave their name. Grow a backbone! Once you have go find your own soap box. I agree with Buck, Becky, and Lou.
As your VICE president would say, "SO"?
Or Little Richard: "Shut up, SHUT up, SHUT UP!"
Not to mention Iggy Pop: "well boo hoo and my oh my"...
And just to mix the patois: Adios, schmucks!
Wow, I missed the whole party.
You didn't miss much, Laurie. Just a ranting liberal who, when he found out he couldn't shout us down, started with the name calling, accusing us of everything he is himself, and when that didn't work, stomped off in a huff. Eh, typical.
Lou and Buck, thanks for backing me.
Buck, he's not likely to comment on your blog. Bullies only pick fights where they think they can win.
Becky is right. But picking on Lou is not the best idea. She fights back and she has many people who back her up.
Wow! Take a couple of days off and miss all the fun! Way to go guys and gals... I'm proud of you all for standing up for your beliefs! (Extra shout out to Buck, you rule man!)
All for one and one for all. As I said, I love my faithful readers.
I did hear from Anon #2 who did explain why he did not leave his name. He apologized for starting a raucous on my blog to which I laughed and assured him it was okay – a little excitement never hurt anyone. For the same reason he did not leave his name in the comments, I cannot explain further, although if it really bothers anyone, email me.
"They must find it difficult...
Those who have taken authority as the truth,
rather than truth as the authority."
-Gerald Massey
Hey Lou, got back from Easter service a while back and read your recent reply. Like Lou said, talk to her if you want to know what Anon. #2 was up to, but my name is John and I live around the Dallas area. I met Lou up in RR back in '75 and have followed her blog since the get-go. I normally just read and not respond, but after talking with Lou I thought I would write this little note. Hey Buck, I appreciate your recent words, "ie..appear to be on the right track", and Becky, I agree with your statement about "people picking fights when they think they can win". I'm a Reagan conservative from way back and love a good debate, however when the other side turns to "name-calling", I tend to bow out. Of course, that is the surest sign that one has won the debate when the other party (aka liberal this time) starts ranting and raving. Anyway, I have enjoyed everyone's views and hope that you and your families have a great Easter.
Wow...i've been so out with The Sickness and all. Just let me know where Anon lives...i won't burn a cross in his yard, i'll burn 13 (one for each state in the Confederacy). I mean, isn't that how ALL of us toothless, overall wearin', horse trailer livin', catfish fryin', no shoe's wearin', un-eddicated, enbreedin', "you gotta purty mouth boy" rednecks react here in the Dust Bowl Buckle? What a train wreck! You can find that level of reasoning on any sports message board, its actually quite comical...but boring after a few minutes. Now...MamaLou, shall i start my mass typecasting on liberal America now? It will be fun, amateurish and sophomoric...but fun.
I'll sign my name...
The Friendly Redneck Crossdresser
Piper, I should have called you from you sick bed so that you would not miss the excitement - us Okies have such few delights. I was feeling sort of sorry that Becky and Buck got lumped into being "Okies." For us crossburnin' Okies it was not much of an insult:)
I'm glad to see that the last Anon agrees with us.
I completely forgot about the Piper...have enjoyed your remarks the last couple of years also. But hey, would you "Crossburnin Okies" rather have "cedar" or "mesquites" for your crosses :-) We have plenty down here in Dallas.
Actually, we'd rather use pecan [please pronounce that kerrectly: peh-KAWN, its the SOUTHERN way] if ya put a pig on a spit, its smokes out real nice.
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